Bean Probes- Types and Placement

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I am intending to add a bean probe to my roaster and I am confused by the different probes, and where to place the probe to most accurately read bean temperature: can you help?

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The widespread use of temperature probes in coffee roasters over the last decade or so, even by “old school” or “artisan” roasters has helped make our industry more professional and safer.  Additionally, it has helped spark the movement toward the profiling of coffee by more accurately, and more quickly, measuring changes along the roast time and temperature curve.  In coffee roasting we are generally discussing 3 types of probes: J type thermocouples, K type thermocouples, and RTDs.  Let’s start with the thermocouples.

Thermocouples (Type Js and Ks)

All thermocouples measure temperature in the same way: by utilizing the known temperature gradient of dissimilar metals.  These dissimilar metal wires are housed within the outer sheath of the probe, most often made of stainless steel.  The heating and cooling of these metals create EMF (electromotive force) that is read as voltage this is then translated into a temperature and read by a repeater, controller or computer.  Both J and K thermocouples work in this manner. The practical difference between a J and a K is the range and therefore the accuracy of each type.  A J type thermocouple can measure up to 1380 F, while a K can measure up to 2300 F.  This means that Js are more temperature sensitive than Ks.  Because coffee seldom sees temperatures much above 470F the more discreet readings of the J are a better fit for use as a bean probe.

So, why use type K thermocouples at all.  Type K thermocouples have their use in coffee roasting operations for the reading of temperatures in afterburners.  The higher temperatures required when operating afterburners are at the very limit of what a J can read and continued operation at this level will eventually cause a J probe failure, making Ks much more practical for this operation.  Also, the more discreet readings required in the coffee roasting process are not needed in the operation of pollution control devices.

RTDs (Resistive Temperature Device)

Resistive temperature devices (RTDs) measure temperature differently from thermocouples: RTDs work by measuring temperature induced electrical resistance across the elements.  Once again the elements are housed in a stainless sheath similar to the thermocouples. 

Type J versus RTD

While either a J type thermocouple or an RTD are well suited for use as a bean probe there are definite and distinct differences between the two.  Below is a quick reference list of differences:

RTD

• Able to accurately and easily calibrate
• Easier to bend without damaging
• More accurate
• More stable throughout the profile

J Type Thermocouples

• 2-3 times cheaper than RTDs
• More durable
• Responds faster

The increased accuracy of the RTD comes from the linear nature of the temperature vs. resistance plot, as well as their better stability.  Thermocouples on the other hand are decidedly non-linear leading to more drift from profile to profile, this temperature drift decreases stability.  Generally speaking, most roasters using either a basic set point controller (or using a PID controller in this manner), or a repeater are fine with a J type thermocouple.  While many, if not most profile control systems (and better profiling data-loggers) are using RTDs as these systems are more able to capitalize on the increases in accuracy and stability, thereby justifying the increased cost.

At the end of the day, the decision ultimately lies with the owner/operator, as both of these probe types will work well- so long as whatever is being used to read the temperature can accept the signal from the chosen probe type. And, they are placed so that they can measure the surface temperature of the coffee.

Placement for accuracy

At the risk of sounding too obvious, if you want a probe to read bean temperature, then you need to place it where it is in contact with the beans.  In fact, the probe needs to be immersed in the coffee.  For front opening drum roasters this can be a pretty simple part of the process (see drawings).  For certain types of drum roasters, those where the coffee does not ride up against the faceplate; side openers, bottom openers, etc… then some modification maybe needed in order to accurately measure bean temperature, this modification is often accomplished with a funnel shaped catch that allows a mass of beans to surround the probe.   Fluid bed roasters present a special challenge to the measurement of bean temperature as well.  The larger volume of air, and the movement of the coffee within the chamber, while consistent, will read higher temps than drum roasters; making it difficult for fluid bed and drum roaster operators to exchange accurate roasting information.

For front opening drum roasters the probe should be placed somewhere in the lower quadrant of the uptake side of the drum.  For clockwise rotating drums this would be the lower left, for counterclockwise rotating drums the lower right.  If you need to roast smaller batches then the lower you should place the probe in the relevant quadrant.  The most important thing to understand about positioning a probe for accuracy is immersion, and immersion depth.

Immersion Depth

When attempting to place a probe for reading bean temperature it is important to understand where on the probe (or more accurately how much of the probe) the temperature measurement is actually occurring.  Temperature measuring occurs at the end of the probe back and how much of the end of the probe is determined by the diameter of the probe. You want the probe to be immersed in the coffee to a length of 10 times the diameter of the probe.  So, if you have a probe that is ¼” in diameter it should be surrounded by coffee for the last 2 ½” from the tip back.  Likewise, a 1/8” diameter probe needs a 1 ¼” immersion depth.  These depths can be accomplished bending the probe if there is not enough bean mass depth horizontally (see drawing).

Mounting the probe

The mistake most often made when mounting a probe through the faceplate is not using the correct mounting hardware, or not using any hardware at all.  In picture 3 there are 2 Type J thermocouples both with the correct mounting hardware.  This is a threaded compression fitting, one end is threaded into the faceplate and the nut, with the compression barrel is screwed into the fitting.  The barrel tightens against the probe, holding the probe in position.  If a compression fitting is not used, then the force of the coffee pushing against the probe can spin the probe out of position, possibly damaging the probe.  Roasters often will use tape or some type of adhesive to hold a probe in place, this is not recommended as it will loosen and can damage or even destroy the probe.

When positioning the probe, before bending, and or tightening it is important to ensure that you are not contacting either the faceplate, the drum wall (this will throw off your measurements) or the fins and supports for the drum wall (this can destroy the probe).

Bending the probe

It is often the case, as in picture 2 that a bean probe will need to be bent in order to get an accurate and consistent bean temperature reading.  The probe in picture 2 is an RTD, RTDs are easier to bend and can be bent using the thumb as a rest, and bending over the pad of the thumb.  It is more difficult however to bend a Type J thermocouple and care must be taken not to crimp or damage the interior of the probe.  It is best when bending a J thermocouple to use a mandrel (a pulley or rod will suffice) that is at least 21/2 times the diameter of the probe.  Do not attempt to bend a thermocouple without using something to bend around.  With both probes you need to take care not to crimp the probe when bending for a 90 degree angle.

More Accurate Tools, Safer Operation and Better Coffee

Regardless of which type probe you chose, or your reason for choosing it, using a bean probe to help you monitor your coffee during roasting will be one of the best business decisions you will ever make.

Temperature Probes

Temperature Probes: Accurately Measuring the Advancement of Coffee Roasting By Terry Davis and Paul Ribich

 

For many of us in the coffee industry, the word “probe” conjures up suppressed memories of aliens, time warps and painful medical procedures, both real and surreal. However, no tool has had as profound an effect on the advancement and growth in coffee roasting as temperature probes. Bean probes, environment probes, exhaust probes, thermocouples (Js&Ks), RTDs and digital thermometers - these simple measuring devices are at once inexpensive , easily obtainable and easily installed. The use of probes has helped many an experienced coffee roaster solve a variety of problems; accuracy in measurement, training of inexperienced personnel, safety and consistency. For the novice roaster it very simply means a shorter learning curve. And for the industry as a whole the accuracy of probes has helped further the dialogue and exchange of information on profile roasting that is so apparent in organizations like the Roasters Guild. However, like all technologies, an operator must possess a basic understanding of how temperature probes work, what they can do and perhaps more importantly, what they cannot.

Types of Probes
Nearly as many types of probes as there are letters in the alphabet have been manufactured. For the purposes of coffee roasters, we are only interested in two: thermocouples and RTDs. Thermocouples, by far the most widely used type of probe in coffee roasters, come in many types that roughly correspond to different temperature gradients and different media. Thermocouples measure temperature by using the known temperature gradients of dissimilar metals. This produces EMF (electromotive force) or voltage, which is then translated into a temperature and can be read by a repeater, controller or computer - thermocouples are non-linear. In coffee roasting equipment, J and K types are the most popular probes. Js can measure temperatures up to 1400°F while K types can measure up to 2300°F. J types are most often used in roasters and Ks are most often used to measure temperature in afterburners. Although Ks can be used in roasters the tighter range of Js make them more accurate at the temperatures associated with roasting coffee. RTDs (Resistance Temperature Device) measure temperature through temperature induced electrical resistance across the element. RTDs are linear, making them more accurate than thermocouples. RTDs have the added ability of being able to field calibrate errors out of systems. This calibration cannot be done with thermocouples. Although RTDs are more accurate than thermocouples, both are sufficiently accurate for use with coffee roasting equipment. Additionally, RTDs cost in the range of two to three times what a comparable thermocouple costs.

There are three basic positions for probes in roasters: environment, exhaust and bean. Environment probes are probes that are placed so as to allow the reading of the environment temperature in the drum or roasting chamber. Exhaust probes are placed somewhere in the exhaust stream most usually before the blower, but not always. Bean probes are mounted so as to allow the external temperature of the coffee to be measured throughout the entire roasting process. Environment probes are most often used with computerized and automated roasting profile systems, exhaust probes are most often used with overtemperature safety systems, and bean probes are the most widely used and discussed of all the probe positions and are often used in conjunction with environment probes in automated profiling systems. Although they sound like different probes, all three can in fact be the same type of probe hardware; it is the positioning of the probes on the roaster that lend to their respective names: environment, exhaust or bean.

Uses of Probes in Coffee Roasting
Training and safety are closely linked in coffee roasting. Poorly trained personnel are themselves unsafe. Accurate and repeatable measurements make it easier and quicker to train beginning personnel and to provide on-going training and quality control assistance to experienced roasting personnel. Probes tied to controllers or high limit reset switches can virtually eliminate some types of roaster fires (drum fires) while lessening the impact of others (chaff and exhaust fires). Probe actuated alarms can make multi-tasking of roasting personnel easy and safe. Probes, controllers and alarms have helped reduce the stress of operating in a retail environment and have helped make it safe for retail roasters to talk on the phone again. Safety and training are strong reasons for adopting probes, but most roasters have adopted probes for more pragmatic reasons: accuracy and repeatability.

Roasters are constantly struggling with the two pillars of consistency: accuracy and repeatability. Without a level of accuracy there is no repeatability, without repeatability there is no consistency. Although accuracy and repeatability are connected, they are still two distinct and separate concepts. Generally accuracy is determined by equipment whereas repeatability has many factors affecting its performance. Of the two, repeatability is by far the most important and the hardest to attain. Accuracy depends on probe type and calibration of the system. Issues that affect accuracy are: type of sensor, calibration (Thermocouples have standard limits and special limits; while RTD’s have class A and class B element types), the ability to calibrate the system (probe and controller), size of the probe, placement, etc.- all of which have different tolerances. Additionally, because of the relatively low temperatures and slow temperature change throughout the roasting process, the accuracy required of a probe used in coffee roasting is easily achievable by most probe combinations. Once again accuracy has a definite affect on repeatability and the two are intimately intertwined: probe type, size and calibration all are elements of both. However, the single most important element of repeatability and hence consistency is the actual positioning of the probe.

Positioning of Probes for Accuracy & Repeatability
When we talk about repeatability, we are talking about the ability to measure the same temperature regardless of the size of the load being roasted. What we are most interested in when we roast different load sizes, is producing the same roast profile. We want our full loads to roast in the same amount of time and to the same temperature with the same degree of roast as our half loads. In order to obtain this we need to be measuring the same thing in both cases. We want to measure the beans regardless of the amount of coffee we have in the roaster.

The only way to do this accurately is that the probe must measure the same thing in all cases - the media and the beans. Probes provide signals based on what they are measuring. Probes measure the area directly surrounding them, the air, the beans, and the drum. So if a probe is positioned so it is in the beans when running a full load, but above the mass of the beans when running a partial load, you’re not measuring the same thing, and you will not get the same results. The probe must be positioned so that it is completely submerged in the beans regardless of the amount of coffee in the drum.

The proper positioning of a bean probe can be tricky in the least. It requires a basic working knowledge of both probe type and of the roasting equipment involved. First we should talk about the immersion depth. Immersion depth refers to how far the probe extends into the media that you are attempting to measure. The minimum amount you want extending into the media is 10 times the diameter of the probe, a 1/4” diameter probe should extend 2 1/2” into the media. A 1/8” diameter probe should be immersed 11/4” while a 3/8” diameter probe should be immersed 17/8” into the media. Thermocouples require this minimum immersion depth to produce the EMF, proper voltage that will give an accurate measurement of the intended media. RTD’s require this immersion depth to ensure the element is completely in the media and that the temperature gradient does not hinder the element. Poor positioning of an intended bean probe can cause it to read environment instead of bean temperature or temperature of the faceplate, or even damage the probe.

Next, you want the probe located on the side of the drum that is rotating the beans in an upward direction. If the drum turns clockwise the probe should be on the left side of center when looking at the face plate. If the drum rotates counterclockwise, the probe should be located on the right side of center on the face plate. The probe should be positioned as low on the faceplate as possible, without interfering with anything. If the probe is still too high to be completely submerged in your smallest batch, then you will have a measure of inconsistency between batch sizes. Your smallest batch size will not be measured by the same standards as your fuller batches.

This leads to the question of how to get enough of the probe into the drum without contacting the agitators that help move the coffee in the drum, or the spokes that help support the weight of the drum on the shaft. These obstructions are often closer to the inside of the face plate than the minimum required immersion depth. This may lead to modification of the probe, this modification is fairly simple. Both thermocouples and RTDs have an outer metal sheath or tube that can be bent to allow enough of the probe to be inside the drum to get an accurate measurement. Bending the probe will also resolve the above issue of not being able to position the probe as low as you need to for your smaller batches. Probes can be bent around a mandrel (a pulley or rod will suffice) that is at least two times the diameter of the probe. Start the bend at least at the minimum immersion depth, to insure that you have the minimum in the drum, or at a point that will get the tip of the probe down to the desired position. Bend the probe 90 degrees, and then position the leg of the probe closer to the agitators than the face plate. Bending the probe can unfortunately, lead to another issue, the bent leg of the probe can act as a lever allowing the beans to push it out of position. This can cause the probe to make inaccurate or inconsistent readings, and can even lead to damage of the probe. Probe movement can be dealt with in two simple ways: 1) use of a compression fitting that will lock the probe in place, or 2) if there is enough of the probe protruding from the face plate, you could make a second bend outside the face plate allowing the sheath to rest against a fixed object or be clamped in place to prevent rotation.

By positioning the bean probe as described above, you will always be measuring the beans in the same manner, thus ensuring repeatability both between roasts and between batch sizes. With proper positioning even an inaccurate or un-calibrated probe can allow for consistency and repeatability.

But what about the positioning of an environment probe? All of the above information applies to the use of an environment probe as well as a bean probe. Immersion depth and media contact is just as important for environment probes as bean probes. The difference is that the media being measured is now the air (environment) in the roasting chamber. Since, when roasting, it is not possible to completely eliminate the influence of the coffee beans on the environment we must attempt to minimize it through correct positioning. When positioning the probe, keep it up as high as possible inside the drum, being careful to keep the probe as far out of the air stream as possible. If the environment probe is positioned in the air stream, the speed of the air across the probe will cause it to read higher than the actual temperature inside the drum. Additionally hot air rises inside the drum and is drawn to the front and out by the exhaust, leaving cooler air inside the drum. If the probe is located in this air stream, it will give you a false indication that you have adequately preheated the drum. Not preheating adequately can lead to extended roast times. This problem is often seen when using bean probes as the only indicator of preheat temperature, a task for the probe was not positioned for.

Safety, training, accuracy, repeatability and consistency- no other tool has provided so much for so little. The correct use of probes can be a valuable tool for any size roaster in any coffee operation. Temperature probes have helped to fuel the explosion of retail roasters and have spurred many a retail roaster to move into wholesaling. They have begun to change the language that roasters speak replacing common names (French, Full City, Italian etc…) with temperatures, times and curve profiles. Where once we might have said a dark French, we may now, more accurately, say a 141/2 minute roast to a drop temperature of 465 degrees F. For wholesale roasters the ability to accurately measure and record temperatures has made it easier to replace key roasting personnel without sacrificing either quality or efficiency. For consumers it has led to an increase of high-quality, consistently roasted coffees thereby expanding their choices and helping them to move away from lower grade commercially roasted coffees. But the greatest effect of all has been on the bean itself. Accurate and consistent temperature measurement has helped committed roasters to strive to develop the best roast profile for individual varietals, estates and crop years. And developing the bean is what roasting is really about.

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Article initially published in Tea & Coffee - February/March, 2004

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